Make no mistake, Tea Party Right Wing Republicans have been clamoring for a government shutdown even before they were elected. During the 2010 elections they so debased government with their entire base and with gullible independents that many Tea Party candidates were talking about shutting the whole thing down while their voters (fans) cheered.
Of course most of their fans are dependent on the government, from social security, to veterans’ benefits, to government employment. The problem was that these candidates did not lead. They misled.
They promised to cut spending in a draconian fashion and blackmailed the president into sequester. Interestingly, the effects of the sequester on the economy and on federal programs have a much larger effect on the Republican base since Red State are much more dependent on the government than Blue States.
They promised to kill Obamacare. Obamacare has been the law of the land since 2010. There was no constitutional avenue to kill it barring it being ruled unconstitutional. When the Supreme Court ruled it constitutional there was only one option left, win the presidency.
Mitt Romney ran on repealing Obamacare and lost the election in an electoral landslide and by more than five million votes. Moreover, they lost seats in the Senate and the House of Representatives. In fact, absent gerrymandering Democrats would be running the House of Representatives as well. Democrats won over one million votes in the House races than Republicans. So when one hears any Republican in the House of Representatives say they represent the majority of Americans, it is imperative that one remembers they do not.
The Tea Party Right Wing Republicans answer to having no constitutional method of killing Obamacare is to hold the entire country hostage. It is to do what the Tea Party faction of their party claim they wanted to do.
Rachel Maddow did a well-researched piece last night on what Republican obsession with killing Obamacare, irresponsible view of the national debt, and hate for government have caused. In the piece Maddow shows clips of many Republicans talking about shutting the government down in a very jovial manner. It is an important chronology of Republican intransigence and irresponsibility.
Maddow contrasts the accomplishments of government when the House of Representatives was in the hands of Democrats, politicians that seemed to want to accomplish much for the working middle class. They passed a healthcare law, a banking law, equal pay for women law, economy saving stimulus law, and much more.
Rachel factually illustrates that the Republican House of Representatives have accomplished nothing for the country in the two and a quarter years they have been in power. It has passed no meaningful legislation. It has passed no laws to aid employment. In effect it has been more damaging to America than if they simply stayed home in their district and did nothing. They have materially hurt the working middle class, the poor, and the economy at large.
Now with this government shutdown, they will cause more pain to all but a few American citizens. While their wealthy funders will be fine even as they continue to spend to misinform the Right Wing base, all will suffer as the monies government employees would have added to the private economy, mostly in Red States, is gone. The poor will suffer yet another damaging blow. The working middle class will continue their slide into poverty.
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Why is it that people will watch FOX and the lies of that crew rather than a researched, factual report such as Maddow’s?
Why do so many people prefer to be fooled, lied to and deluded than know truth that is in their own best interest? I do not understand this kind of person-truly. i have tried.
These assholes ain’t the Republicans of the 1960s/70s. These politicians are agents of oppressive wealthy-elite plutocrats seeking to rule US. The T-bag party minions of hubris are fools/idiots of evil treasonous groups. IMO
A lot of Left Wing flapping going on here. Maybe that’s why the country’s in a tail spin. Circle to the left…it’s like a democratic square dance…Swing your partner theres not doubt, hold her upside down till her money falls out. Get your health care , take your chance, that’s what we call the Obamacare dance.
this is such garbage…the shut downs are a result of excess budgetary obligations that were made by over-spending by a dem majority. the first step to getting out of a hole is to stop digging…
The two entries above are evidence that some people do drink the poisoned drink. Watching FOX News, well as other incomplete, disingenuous “news” has given too many people false information on, the reasons the nation–and much of the world–are really in a constant state of disarray.
The reactionary, selfish-greedy dislike for most pepple, while kow-towing to the ones that have precipitated our economic condition is totally Repugnut responsibility. You sabotage your own future being by your ignorance of history–versus propaganda
well said Gwendoline.
Thank you rahk. It is very sad to have learned how to read and critically evaluate information, and to have taught that to students for 30 years, knowing that there are many in classrooms all over the nation who are doing the same, only to witness the gross negligence that has been the fate of too many students as they have gone through US schools. Tea Party rants–misinterpretations of what are this country’s true principles–the lack of critical thinking skills and accurate historical and scientific orientation and INFORMATION for a well-informed citizenry–are sending the country into the fastest downfall as a great nation as has ever occurred before. Selfish-greedy ignorance is the fodder.
gwendoline
more nonsense…but you make it sound like you know what you are talking about. I’m sure when you are preaching to your “students” they are very captivated (and bit confused).
kudos though…maybe you should be a politician…or maybe a news caster…sounds like you’d you’d fit right in, taking two paragraphs to say what could have been said in two words “I disagree”.
you, as most who have bought into this dribble seem to have a misunderstanding of basic economics and morality and politics.
but you may want to bring a sweater…it may get cold up there on your soap box.
Yes, tea party = ridiculous, Fox News = even worse, but this crap is too much.
Paul,
Your responses show that you have no idea of what study-scholarship, how it is done and its importance.
“Preaching” is something ministers and priests do. My paternal grandfather completed seven years of higher education to become a minister studyingHebrew-Greek-Latin-
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My role was-is teacher-writer. My credentials include ten years of education after high school. I was granted a Bachelor of Arts, Maser of Science, Master of Philosophy, and Doctor of Education with subject emphases in history and social psychology. I have traveled and studied on five continents–NA-SA-Africa-Asia-Europe with earned credits about a dozen other universities–taught by professors who invested their lives in learning, as have I. When I “disagree” I provide verifiable evidence. That’s using scholarship-learning.
Retired from active (paid) teaching, former students (1960s-1990s) have located and told me that being in my classes(history-sociology-social science) helped them. I have done the same to teachers who did the same, and I honor them daily.
A parent informed me that on driving her son and three friends to the U of Illinois they talked of how I “taught them to think”–in seventh grade. My reply was that I did not teach them to think, I allowed them to think–with freedom and inquiry.
You represent, sadly, many of a generation who have been propagandized, even brain washed. This is why you cannot understand the language I use–that of a generally educated person, i.e. minimum of four years of college. Uninformed people who prefer to remain ignorant have no idea of “the life of the mind.” The world is collapsing under the control of the ignorant, greedy, self-involved, and isolated, and you make fun of those who understand, and can and help bring productive change–if allowed. Not easy when the only purpose for too many is gross entertainment. There’s film about a society 500 ears in the future. The president is an “average” person by today’s standard, because everyone else is DNA-deep stupid.
I have to agree with Gwendoline. Propaganda and ” the lack of critical thinking skills and accurate historical and scientific orientation and INFORMATION for a well-informed citizenry–are sending the country into the fastest downfall as a great nation as has ever occurred before.” 1984 was a book US citizens used to read in elementary school. A book about a future where propaganda is used to control the people. Wars and suppression are tools for the wealthy. Freedoms are hidden inside the illusion of conformity. Do not think, do not know, do not question. 1984 is happening right now. I worry it is to late to wake up.
gwendoline
oh no you’re not preaching at all…#sarcasim
what i have no idea of is…what is your point?
your credentials are very impressive, but in the words of the great one… “doooon’t caaaaaarrrreeee!
i’d have to say that i would expect more out of a person in the educational pipeline, but you sound like you are no different than every other baby-boomer left-wing quack out there.
lucky for me, my exposure to teachers like you was limited to those who kept their bloated opinions out of the classroom, which is something that I doubt that you had the courtesy to do.
you are part of a group of generations that put us into this mess and refuses to take responsibility for creating a nation full of entitlement-driven whiners. lucky for those in my generation though…all we have to do is wait for yours to die off and then try to clean up the mess you created so that we don’t pass it on to our children.
now you’ll have to excuse me, but I am done with this conversation because i actually have real work to do as a producer in society. as for yourself and those like you, i don’t ask that you produce as well (because I doubt that you could), just stay out of the way of the people who matter and are trying to clean up your mess.
Ha-ha ha…
Dave Phill,
Fresh air–not hot air.
Thank you.
Gwendolyn
I hope by now you see that there’s no talking logic to an illogical thinker. He is obviously a result the intentional budget cuts to education to purposely produce citizens who can’t think critically.
Anytime you show a video of a member of Congress sayingout of their own mouth that they’re going to shut the government down, because… We don’t like it essentially and a person watches it an says it’s the left blah blah blah… They’reeither paid to dispense dissent or fools. And your know what they say,”never argue with fools because people from a distance can’t tell who is who. ”
With these people facts (math, science) ddoesn’t matter. They disagreejust rto be disagreeable. I.E… The deficit. There are indisputable records, figures ect of who has blew the deficit outta control. By far it’s been Republican presidents but you hear from these people that it’s Obama it all this debt happened in the last 5 years when in actuality he’s brought the deficit down. These are facts readily ignored by these non-critical thinkers who have all kind of other issues and use “the deficit” “Obamacare “as cover ups.
Of course, you are correct, and I do know it. There’s some deep vein of “teacher” in me that wants to give the unknowing one more chance, despite non-productive results. About 5 PM a phone call came from a local Congressman, Yoho. It was a Q&A session with him. I almost hung up, after a couple of comments-questions, but forced myself to listen.
Such misinterpretation, misinformation, and ignorance, from both was unbelievable. When asked for my question I told the aide they did not want to hear from me. I am progressive and disagreed with everything I had heard for the past 20+ minutes. She assured me my question wold be taken. I stayed on the line, another 12-15 minutes, hearing such drivel I could feel my heart palpitating. Time ran out. Being told I could leave a message, I used the notes I had been making to do that. Hearing more than a dozen people who have accepted absolutely unverifiable propaganda and lies as factual reality was painful. Accurate information is available. Fear-filled lies are bedrock beliefs and principles of the people I heard, enough to give aware, thoughtful, informed people strokes and heart attacks. Those miscreants laugh for–while the planet reels toward collapse.
An e-mail just came that Congressman Yoho’s office will be picketed by local people on Friday. A waste of energy. Those people can not, do not, will not hear reality. Do you think that some day–any minute–the nightmare will end? I have–but time is running out. Thank you.